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Ken to Irina
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Irina,
Please let me know if this is legitimate or a scam?
Thank you.
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Hi!!!
Hello my kitten Ken.
I as always am expected your letter, and I am happy to that that you
write to me. I think, that you not against what I to name you a
kitten? My girlfriends on work speak, that I became now absent-minded,
to speak it, I have fallen in love, I to not know what to answer them
as I, to not understand, what to take place to me and me all time, to
think of you. Ken you now have begun really a part my life and I only
to think of you, and I am valid to have to you only sensitive feelings
and me very much, to want it our, relations became really very serious
and strong and soon a meeting with you. My brother to ask all time
about you. He to understand, that I to want, to be together with you
and very, to want it as. Each time when I receive your letters, I feel
more happily, than before. In your letters which I can find something,
I never met in other men. You - so kind, noble, romantic,
intellectual, I can remain to describe to you with a congratulation,
but in letters all could not express a word, I start to be felt about
you. Recently my brother has asked me if I visit in agency of a
marriage, was useful to me, and I informed him about you. As I have
learned you in a network, that you informed me yours. He thinks, that
you - the noble and reliable person, and he informed me, that sometime
I could be happy with you. I already spoke it, I have learned people
in which the Internet searched, whether also this person you Ken.
Whether tell to me please fairly, probably that our feelings are
reciprocity? I very much to want it was so because I very, to want to
have serious relations with you my fine Ken and to hope for it. Now I
have changed in the best side, and mine heart to beat not in correct
intervals. Probably I to be mad, but I to want to tell you, that you
be my part a life now and I, to not present me it without you. It is
very important for me to study your feelings to me, and I am simple
now in alarm for this purpose!
I became similar to the mad girl, raving love. First I was afraid to
admit you it, thought, that when you will hear at once these words,
you will laugh at my feelings. You see, that I then did not know you
so well as now. But during our dialogue I did not hold feeling inside
me, and they have escaped outside. Now I am not confused to admit you
it. I am in love with you, very urgently also want to leave for you in
a marriage..!! I for ever yours. I hope, you, you will not break my
dreams concerning you.
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With tenderness
yours Elena
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Irina to Ken
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Hello Ken,
She is a scammer. You have not sent me her email for checking but I found her letters here:
http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/russian_marriage_scams/f1397.shtml?p=16
She is an obvious scammer.
Best regards,
Irina
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Ken to Irina
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Irina,
Here is a letter I just received. Has she tried this before?
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Hello my Ken. How are you?
Excuse that so it is long could not to write to you the letter. Simply
now at school pass examinations and I very much get tired on work and
could not write to you earlier. Now on it became much easier because
examinations at school come to an end. Now I shall write to you on a
regular basis.
I think of you all my time and missing you much. I feel that you are
necessary for me and it is very difficult for me without you.
If you might know as strongly I be pleased when come in agency and
receive your letter and you will laugh but I wake up morning and to
expect evening when I shall come in agency and received yours letter.
I think that I probably fall in love. I want arrive to you at first
and kiss you!!! I want to be yours lady.... My Ken I very much want
what at us all will good and that we have good relation. For the first
time for many years I to feel that I find the person close to me. I
very much love all in you, I very much to like your care about me,
your words about me and your character. I am very serious in our
relations and I really to want to spend the rest my life with such
person as you. I to have very good feelings for you and I very much to
be afraid to be deceived. You are very dear for me. I never to meet
such person as you earlier. I need real love, honesty, trusting and
care. My feelings to you are real. I very much to want meet you and
learn each other more better and I hope that we will have real love to
each other and when we will see. May be we will want to create new
family and will together all live.....
I was speak with my manager today, after that I sign my travel
contract, I them paid first part of money, for visa and other
documents for Travels. It was in some times more, than I thought. I
planned, that visa will cost for me about 200 $, but because of
difficulties for its reception is was for me 500$. Dear, it is
possible, that to me yours will be required The help for payment of
other part of cost of travel. I have some money still , and also took
some money at my parents, but it is possible them will not suffice for
payment of the second part of cost, for insurance and tickets. It will
be known after the agent will develop a route. The second part of cost
I should pay under the contract,, how to take away the visa. I shall
inform you, if it to be necessary to me the help. Hope, what is it
will not be problem for You and I can not worry about it. I have
informed you all news about progress of our meeting.
All that I need to it is giving to my manager yours full
information(your full name, yours address and call number, and also
city with the nearest airport for you). He said that agency has the
responsibility for the girl which use agency for trip to other country
and sending information in USA embassy in Russia and in Russia Embassy
in USA.
After I shall give for the manager the information on you, he will
give me total price of travel.
Manager will give me more detail information, when I will need have
your information.
And for me will be necessary your help with payment.
Yours Elena
I sending to you my adress:
Russia.
republic Tatarstan.
city: Kazan
Petrova, st.68, art.28
Postal code: 420094
full name – ELENA OKUNEVA
kiss you!!!
I will wait your letter.
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Irina to Ken
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Hello Ken,
Yes, for sure. It is a usual trick of scammers to take money from men.
They pretend that it is easy (and possible ) to get visas to USA,
just pay 500 usd and go (funny). And ask a man to help them with this.
Then they will ask (do not illusion yourself, it is not a she, it is they)
to send them money for tickets, if you send, then next request will be money
so that they could have it on hands when they enter the USA.
If you are foolish enough to send this also, the next request can be from Moscow,
from airport, that she needs to wait there but it is too expensive there.
If you send this money also then she will just disappear or another person
will write that something has happned to her.
Best regards,
Irina
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Ken to Irina
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Thank you.
I figured as much and I actually copied another letter from that
delphi site and sent it to her. I wonder if any honest women exist?
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Irina to Ken
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Ken,
There are many honest women. But if you go to the dirty far away street and look for a lady there, you can do it for lots of years.
Here it is the same.
I do not know where you meet all these "ladies" but I think it is not the best way and place to meet normal Russian women.
It is either some Western site like yahoo or american singles that do not fight with scammers all right.
Or it is free site where they also can't hire and work with checking (on my sites I have to hire full time worker to work with girls and check the new members who register and check them a bit later, and it is plus to checking the ip of all women who register.). Normal women have work, have their life, they just register somewhere and communicate with men who write to them, scammers work, work, work the whole day, sending first letters, and other letters and doing it the whole days.
Another thing is to be active yourself. Do not wait for the girls to be active and write to you. It is not our tradition. We have traditional family values and in their light it is a man's way to begin contact , it is he who should show initiative at first.
Follow these simple rules and you will find many Russian women.
Best regards,
Irina
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Ken to Irina
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Please check this one for me, too.
Thank you.
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Letter #1
From: lovestories777
Subject: I wait your messages
Hi my dear! I now read yours e-mail, and it was interesting to me to
find out your opinion that I spoke you in my last message. Our
exchange of opinions is interesting to me and I think, that now I can
make some opinion on what your character. Thank, you answered ken,
on my questions. I hope, That these questions not too tire you. ken,
I send you a new picture, I too would want to see more than your
pictures. Dear, I would like to find out, how you like to spend the
free time. I very cheerful person also think out Various
entertainments for itself and the friends. To me to like to help them
to make life interesting. It can be different things: Dances, cinema,
parties or entertainments on the nature. But if to speak frankly in
the last these entertainments give time I have less than pleasure. I
frequently dream of romantic evening with the favourite person, it can
be a supper or simply walk . I think, that in it there is a lot ofYour browser may not support display of this image.
charm. You the romantic person ken? Whether you think, sometimes, of
such things? You like cosy evenings with the family? I very much love
holidays when all family gathers, behind one table. It is very cosy
and comfortable for me. And how you like to carry out holidays dear?
What for you makes a cosiness and rest? Tell to me please about it
ken. ken, excuse me for a question: whether there is at you now
any woman? I think, that you are good, as the man and To like many
women. Because at me good taste, and you to like me. What your private
life now, Please tell about it. Probably you have to me any frank
questions? I shall answer them. Write to me more in detail about the
feelings and desires, to me to like to read, when you tell about
yourself, I am ready To listen about it. I wait for your messages. My
embraces.
Yours Tatyana .
Letter #2
From: lovestories777
Hi ken. It is pleasant, that you studied my some ideas in the last
message. ken, I usually do not tell about the deep ideas and
opinions, but to you has written, because has felt desire to open it
to you. I more independent woman, but probably sometimes am necessary
that there was one man, which can to open and trust - sometimes
frequently it happens hardly to reflect on all these things. I am
glad, that has found at you understanding me, you see it happens not
frequently. ken It is time to me to go to do some businesses and it
is necessary to meet the friends. By the way I told by him, that got
acquainted with you. Have good day. I wait for your letters.
Yours
Tatyana .
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Irina to Ken
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This is exactly the letter that I found on that site.
These letters are also on some other scammer list sites.
Best regards,
Irina
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Ken to Irina
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Here's another one I just received. Is it the same woman for both addresses?
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From: lovestories777
Hi mine lovely! I hope, that at you all OK! It was pleasant for me to
read your message and thank for your words. I send you other picture,
probably to those pictures which you already saw, you got used. I
hope, that This picture will give again to you good emotions. Today my
work is finished earlier a
nd I, having written to you this letter, I
shall prepare dinner for my grandmother. Mine to the grandmother is
sick a little and today to me to prepare for it. By the way, dear,
what foodstuffs is loved for you? That you prefer; sweets, meat, a
fish? Inform me it ken. I am able to consult not bad on to kitchen,
my mum cared of it many years back. You can be convinced of it, in due
time. I easily make various salads, soups, and also game and a fish.
In the greater degree I prefer a fish, and also to me very much to
like fruit; kivi, bananas, pineapples and a melon. Today houses I
shall prepare for the chinese hen and vegetable salad. Probably you
ken, love the tasty foodstuffs. We have proverb;"the way to heart
of the man - passes through his stomach!" I was many times convinced
of it when observed of my father. Therefore ken, I shall reach to
your heart with the help of my culinary abilities. It is a joke!!! Now
I go on kitchen .Я I hope, that my grandmother will be pleased. I wait
for your messages! My kisses.
Yours Tatyana.
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Irina to Ken
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I would say maybe not the same woman, but the same criminal group.
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Ken to Irina
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Thank you.
Did you check the other ones from email: love_rose1551@yahoo.com?
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Irina to Ken
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Ken,
All of the letters were from scammers, from one and the same group - Yoshkar-Ola (I recognize their style).
I did not see any difference. Thought it was from the same girl.
They are all standard letters and obviously of this language (has the same mistakes).
Best regards,
Irina
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Ken to Irina
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I knew as much and I hope the photos were able to be seen that I included in the mails,
if not, let me know and I'll try to send them again so you can put them on your site.
Thank you.
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Irina to Ken
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Yes, the photos are seen.
We will put her to the scammerlist.
thank you,
Irina
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Ken to Irina
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Thank you.
Here's another letter. Seems to be getting more impatient and gives the same
Samara mobile number again. I’m going to forward to you all the letters I get from her.
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
hi sweet
I shall learn a contact phone number that you could communicate with a travel company...
But I do not understand you a little.
I already many times asked to give me your full name and your address, you completely ignore my requests.
I wanted to contact you, but you do not do it.
What do you want to learn in a travel company??
Share with me the ideas!!
By the way, I am not sure concerning that that you can to learn more having
called in a travel company as almost nobody speaks English well.
You write very short letters, why?
You would not like to waste time to write to me the good letter?
We can understand and solve much if we shall communicate it is more...
I hope that in the following letter you will tell to me more and will answer my questions.
I have given you a phone number of my girlfriend why you did not cause me?
I waited two days...
Tomorrow necessarily cause me by this phone, it: 7-927-872-0218
Call strictly from 9:00 pm till 10:00 pm. Moscow time. I shall be with her!!
It will be from 1:00 pm till 2:00 pm on your time!!!
Only necessarily make it!!!!
It is important for me.
I shall wait
Yours Elena
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Irina,
Here is another one with continued payment request. Thank you.
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[2]: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
hi lovely, I understand all...
I hope that with your cousin all will be normal..
I shall help you than I can.. Very much I want to make it.
Please cause me today by phone, it is important.
I have given you number and have specified time.
Make it necessarily.
I shall wait
As to payment of travel about what you speak it is unreal.
It is the commercial organization and nobody will give me to travel
free-of-charge as I have already paid a part of the sum.
At me the contract is signed, I personally signed it.
I have terms and the prices...
I think that will turn out nothing...
Well, I shall wait yours inquiry.
I love you my sweet, yours Elena
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Here's another letter. Thank you.
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[4]: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
hi my lovely...
Why you do not write to me??
Why you do not cause me??
I any more do not know what to think?
There was something bad??
I very much hope that it not so..
Please answer me..
Without your letters very bad..
It is very bad to be uncertain..
I love you and I hope that you will soon answer
Yours Elena
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Here's a new one.
Thanks.
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[6]: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
hi dearest!!!
Excuse that could not contact you earlier..
At us weather anomalies..
Two days there is a strong thunder-storm with a hailstones..
Lightnings and a thunder do not stop..
Every day is a few time when it happens it is stuffy, and then again a rain..
Many speak that it abnormally and connect with change of a climate on a planet..
I was ill a little, it hurt a throat and began a cold..
Now I shall go to be treated, have home rest and I shall sleep..
I hope that at you all well..
Very much I wait your letter.
Elena
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Here's another. Why is she explaining her health to me?
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[6]: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
I continue to wait your letter and to trust that you nevertheless will answer...
My condition has worsened, began to cough strongly.. Easy it is hurt...
Thought to see your letter, but time so I shall go to continue treatment home..
I love you
Elena
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Irina to Ken
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Hello,
Thank you.
They can talk about things like that. It is a time of holidays now,
and it can be that they can't cope with all letters now (have some
staff of their scammers group on holiday). This excuse is helpful.
BEst regards,
Irina
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Ken to Irina
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Thank you.
Here's another. I hadn't checked emails in a few weeks for today.
This doesn't even make any sense in regard to the last two emails.
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[6]: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
hi dearest..
How your affairs??
At me good day today was..
Went with girlfriends to cinema, refers to "1408"
Interesting film..
Now I am going to go home and to prepare for a supper to family...
I hope that at you all wonderfully and I wait your letter!!!
Yours Elena
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Here's another one. Thank you.
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[8]: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
hi dear..
I understand you, it really tragedy..
The life frequently happens is unfair..
I all soul with you, but my words a little than can help..
Excuse that I set to you this question, it is really inconvenient for me..
I want to tell concerning mine travel contract
To me there has come the written warning. If I shall not pay it within the next
few days the contract will be terminated.
I very much do not want it!!
I want to you!!
That to me to do..
Please answer me...
Excuse that I add to you problems, but I do not know as to act
I shall wait
Only yours Elena
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Irina,
Here's another letter. I haven't responded in quite some time but she continues to write.
What do you think? When will they stop writing?
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[8]: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
hi dearest..
I wait your letter, but that you cannot similar answer me..
It is very a pity, I really wait it as has asked to you the important question.
Please, as soon as you will have opportunity, at once answer me..
I hope that you in the order..
I love you
Yours Elena
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Irina to Ken
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Hello,
It depends. They can stop in 2-5 letters, some continue to pester for more 10-20 letters.
They need to execute their plan each day, and so when they have nobody else to write but
the plan is not executed yet, they continue to send money to "lost contacts"
Best regards,
Irina
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Ken to Irina
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Here's another one, makes no sense. I haven't written in a long time.
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From: love_rose1551@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[8]: call me!!!!!!!!!!!
hi lovely
Today birthday of my brother so I cannot write to you the big letter.
We go on the nature.
I shall come only today at night.
I hope to see your letter, today...
I shall wait
Only yours Elena
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