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Cecil to Irina

Hello, I have noticed that the girl from Ukraine is on your scammers list. I have found her on two other scam lists also. I have looked into it and cannot find any deroatory information regarding this lady, and I am wondering if she is being wrongly accused of being a scammer. I have not seen any copies of letters or any other information supporting this. I plan on coming to Ukraine next week to visit her. If you have any information that you can show me, like emails or letters where she is trying to scam someone I would change my mind about coming to Ukraine next week. I just can't find anything on the net supporting that she is a scammer. Thank you,

Irina to Cecil

Hello Cecil, what girl from Ukraine? If you look you can find not one but many girls from Ukraine there? Please specify. Send either a link to her profile or her email there. best regards, Irina

Cecil to Irina

Hello, I apologize. I thought I attached her information. Her name is Alesya garcusha 25 years old and email is alzvet82@mail.ru She is from the city of Kherson. Thank you. Cecil

Irina to Cecil

Hello Cecil, Some time ago another man contacted me about this girl (Alesya Garcusha). I add an extract here from our correspondence about this girl. I just wanted to write and thank you for your help and advice regarding Alesya Garcusha, email address alzvet82@mail.ru. from Kherson in the Ukraine. I really thought that she was genuine, but recent events have proved you right and me wrong about her. Since our correspondence, I have unearthed a number of complaints and enquiries about her on the internet, one as recently as May 2007, and I have come to the conclusion that she is up to no good. Last week she sent me birthday greetings on the twelfth, and then on the thirteenth I found her profile on Harmony Dating, which she had accessed that day, when she was supposed to be hard at work, and had no time to email me. I am tempted to update all the photographs you have of her on your web site - there are quite a number accumulated over the past fifteen months of communication with her. Essentially, she was telling me how much she loved me, how much she missed me (if you remember I was over there in April of 2006) and looking forward to coming to England. Luckily the only cash I parted with was some money I sent her for her birthday in April. I did think that maybe she had grown tired of waiting to come to the UK, but the more I researched her, the more worms I uncovered and my unease has grown to the point where I am fairly certain that she is not genuine. So, my thanks and apologies to you, and if you would like me to update her pictures (and she has blossomed into a very beautiful young lady...and I just wish she had been genuine, as I'd grown very fond of her and was looking forward to meeting her again).

Best regards,
Irina

Cecil to Irina

Hello Irina, thank you so much for the information. Although, I find no fast hard evidense that Alesya is "up to no good" wtih this letter. I do find that she tells me that she has not time to email me also, and I also did notice that she is on "Elena's Models" and it showed her active withing the past 24 hours while she was not able to email me for 1 week. Is this enough dis-honesty to go on? She has not asked for money from me and doesn't really make time to write me. She really is not asking much from me at all. I think if anythinig she is not asking me enough about myself to show that she is interested. I think that some of these girls must get overwhelmed with men writing them and also not actually coming to visit. Talk is cheap. I have been now to Russia and Moldova in search for my bride and am now planning on going to Ukraine. I will continue to look for more evidence about this girl, but the letter that you forwarded does not give a lot to go on. I see other scammers that are giving a lot of false information and no phone numbers and also ask for money. She has done none of these things. I talk to her daily on the phone at designated times. If you have any more information I would really appreciate it, and I hope that I am not wasting any of your valuable time. Thanks again,

Irina to Cecil

Hello Cecil. Sorry, yesterday it was late at night (past midnight) when I was writing to you and I was very tired and so just sent that extract. It is day now and I have some time :). You see first who put her to the scammer list was I. She joined my dating site, checking were ok, she was real, but then she began behaving like Ukrainian kind of scammers - writing, writing , writing to all men disregarding their age, appearance and all other things. she was collecting emails (it means that she wrote her email address in the first letters and did it in hundreds), On my blocking her and asking for her motives and her passport, she did not reply. I put her to scammerlist. This is a special kind of scammers - Ukrainian. They are not like Kazan scammers or Moscow scammer group. They do not use visa or passport scenarios (they can use, but apply to it very rarely). They are difficult to catch and difficult to find out. It is wrong ethics scenarios. 1, They try to gather as much as possible men and continue to gather them even if a man makes a fiancee visa for them 2, They do not have serious intentions and the only motive is money. I know many such women who when even made a fiancee visa refused it by different reasons. 3/ Small signs of it you see in the letter. As they have many many men to communicate with they can not write the whole week as "they are busy" at work. 4 A lot of men come to visit them, then they try to take as much as possible presents from men and later when he returns home also. Of course , it is up to you and I just told my opinion.

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